Should I Upgrade to the 5D Mk III From the 5D Mk II?

by Chris Gampat on 03/02/2012

The cat is out of the bag. Canon has finally announced the Canon 5D Mk III. This is the camera that many photographers have been waiting for to be announced. Indeed, it boasts an impressive specs list. And I’ve got a confession to make: I’m not buying one. My 5D Mk II was purchased three years ago and since then has been ever faithful to me at my side: it’s been with me through rough times, through great times, and it has helped me to pay my rent and afford the comfortable living I currently have.

Let’s start out by saying this and getting it clear: I’ve heard from one rep telling another rep that the 5D Mk III is not forcing a discontinuation of the 5D Mk II; and that indeed the two will co-exist. But that may be hearsay.

But beyond all the technical data, specs, and gearheaded-ness, there is something behind it all that we’re not looking at.

Editor’s Note: Please bear with me and read through the entire post to see all of my points

The Tech Specs You Care About

- 22.3 Megapixel Full Frame CMOS sensor (Approximately the same)

- DiG!C 5+ Image Processor (Better processor, though I’m not sure why it’s not two processors)

- ISO 100-25600 (expandable to L:50 H1:51200, H2: 102400) (How much do you need?)

- Full HD Movie (ISO 100-12800 (H:25600) (For the video crowd, this is really nice. But no 1080p 60P or headphone jack. Nor is there a sensor crop mode or tilting LCD screen. However there is an IPB record mode and for professionals, this is a huge pain to render in post-production. The headphone jack is also a welcome addition.)

- 61-point high-density reticular AF (up to 41 crosstype points) (for sports shooters and those that actually use the various AF points, like 7D users, this is a very welcome addition and was perhaps one of the 5D Mk II’s most fatal flaws)

- 6.0 fps for high continuous shooting (For event, portrait, and sports shooters this is a nice addition)

- 100% viewfinder (no more of that 98% crap, so what you see is what you get. This is much better for composition)

- 3.2-type, approx.1.04m dot (3:2 wide) Clear View LCD II (better for video, really. You honestly don’t want to show a client on a shoot your LCD screen because the image won’t look like that when it hits your computer)

- iFCL metering with 63-zone dual-layer sensor (A better meter is nice, but for experienced users that know how to meter or know the theories behind Sunny 16 and the inverse square law of lighting, you don’t need this.)

- Silent & low vibration modes (The 5D Mk II was super quiet to begin with)

- Dual card slots (CF & SD) (Nice for Eye-Fi card users)

- Comparative Playback function (Very cool, you won’t have to do it in Lightroom)

- Improved durability & water and dust resistance (How much better do we once again need?)

And here’s the big one: ergonomics similar to the Canon 7D.

I Don’t Need Better Video

The Canon 5D Mk III offers users much better video features than were previously available in Canon models. In practice, that means that it has a larger appeal to various users. Windows users may prefer AVI while everyone else will want MOV and the other settings. For those users, they’ll much prefer the options and versatility that the new model offers.

Me? Primarily I’m a still photographer, but I do occasionally dabble in the video world. For my needs, the 5D Mk II is more than good enough. Additionally, have you ever tried to pull focus while recording video with a full frame sensor? It’s not easy.

The Current Focusing Points are Fine

I’ve written various posts about the Canon 5D Mk II’s Autofocus during the Mermaid Day Parade and a Star Wars lightsaber fight. Indeed, the camera was apparently designed for photographers that love to use the middle focus point and recompose: the way most old-school users do it. To that end, unlocking the AF expansion on the 5D Mk II made the outer focusing points much stronger to work with: especially in low light.

If you also want to get the absolute perfect totally accurate autofocus: then sure, go for using the specific AF points. I often do and I totally welcome the expanded number of focusing points. I love it on my 7D.

Now, let’s come back to reality: most of the subject matter I shoot doesn’t require anyone to sit there pixel peeping. And most of my work also goes on the web.

There is absolutely no reason why I need the extra focusing points since I own a 7D. But also, my 5D Mk II’s focusing points are still very accurate.

Lastly, if you’re shooting stopped down quite a bit, no one will be able to tell the difference when you focus and recompose. But if you’re shooting wide open, then use that specific AF point and then recompose via cropping in post-production.

Already Tough as Nails

This Photo Sums up Our Love... by Chris  Gampat (ChrisGampat) on 500px.com
This Photo Sums up Our Love… by Chris Gampat

Here’s a story for you: during my Olympus E-5 review, there was a period of time during the major blizzard of last year in NYC where I couldn’t carry the tough as diamond E-5. As an alternative, I carried along my 5D Mk II and 24-105mm f4 L IS. And guess what? It survived the blizzard with no problem.

Extremely cold air? Took it like a champ. Heavy downfall of snow? It was like it wasn’t even there. Sleet? It was like shooting fish in a bucket.

Seriously, my 5D Mk II has survived near hell. And the day it dies, I will keep it retired on a shelf in my room.

I’ve Trained Myself to Get it All Right in One Shot

Sarah Jessica Parker on the set of "Sex and the City II"

You’re 22; fresh out of college and trying to find a way to make a living. When I graduated, I thrust myself straight into the world of the paparazzo. Think those guys don’t have it tough? Besides having to pull ridiculously long hours (7AM to 3AM), answer emails, track celebs, etc, they have to ensure that when they get the subject that they get the photo perfect in one shot.

Why? They may never get it again.

Prepping the Bride by Chris  Gampat (ChrisGampat) on 500px.com
Prepping the Bride by Chris Gampat

And then there is wedding photography: the same concept applies. Oh, and I had a great mentor.

The new meter in the 5D Mk III isn’t needed for users that know how to meter in the first place. Additionally, all the dynamic range in the world won’t help you if you don’t know how to meter to start.

Fast Lenses and Lighting

Dead Catwoman by Chris  Gampat (ChrisGampat) on 500px.com
Dead Catwoman by Chris Gampat

You know what will outlive the life of your camera? Your lenses and your lights.

Unless ISO 25,600 can make midnight in NYC look like 12pm, then I don’t really need it. ISO 6400 has served me very well in most instances and in addition to that one must consider the advantages that modern day software allows us.

Seriously, Lightroom gets rid of so much image noise while retaining lots of detail that it’s insane.

More importantly, if I’m shooting with a 5D Mk II, I’m not going to buy a slow lens. I’m going to want to shoot with fast glass. Plus, I use and think of flash not as adding another light, but as an additional creative tool that I use to achieve the effect that I want or need.

Canon 50mm f1.4 shot at f1.4 on the 5D Mk II

Do you really want to become a better photographer? It’s not about your camera. At the end of the day: no one will remember the gear you used or how you shot an image. They’ll only remember the image.

If you’re experienced already, there doesn’t seem like much of a reason to upgrade here. But if you’re not, grab the Canon 5D Mk III, learn it, shoot with it every day and don’t upgrade until you’ve beaten that camera to death.

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  • Philip

    I’ve a fairly battered Mk-I that I need to upgrade but do you think I should buy a Mk-II which when the III comes out will no doubt become cheaper or get the Mk-III (which I doubt I’ll be able to afford)?

    • ChrisGampat

      Well that depends, what subject matter do you shoot?

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  • sam Chester

    You know what I agree

  • http://twitter.com/thedesignboy chris mcclenaghan

    I liked this post, but for low light its a no brainer, for video the new sensor will allow me to stop levelling off the profile and have sharper images again. The bit rate is better and no more GOP sub rendering in video. Its a great <£3k camera. Im quids in. @thedesignboy:twitter 

  • Ashe

    I know you are a Canon guy and I just sold my 7D and ordered the 5D MIII with the hour that the orders were being taken. That being said, I am not heavily invested in Canon lenses but do you think the Nikon D800 has an advantage over the 5D MIII? If this isn’t a proper question feel free to delete this post. 

    • ChrisGampat

      It’s fine.

      I know that the D800 has the same pixel density as the D7000 in terms of physics, which makes me believe that it may have slightly better high iso capabilities. With that said, the 5D Mk III had better pull some magic because the D7000 sensor is said to be better than the Mk II.

      Pound for pound though, these two cameras are very much the same with some single outlying features. Overall, Canon’s lenses are ones that I’m happier with.

      Lastly, I own cameras and lenses in both systems. But at the end of the day, my Canon investment has saved me more money.

      -Chris Gampat
      Editor in Chief
      The Phoblographer

  • Razaec

    Glad to see an article like this. Everyone wants the latest tech now. Results are still the same though, after each shot, one gets an image. Spend time learning to expose and compose pefectly. To think of it, why wouldn’t anyone who plans to buy a mk3 spend the money instead on the best L lenses canon has to offer? To anyone out there upgrading from a rebel to mk3 – use the money on a mk2 and buy some lenses. :) you’ll end up happy for sure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Javier-Diaz/1133269757 Javier Diaz

    I’m keeping my 5D Mk II and not “upgrading” as well.

  • Jnewlin

    A friend of mine is selling his used mk ii, and getting the new mk iii.  I could buy his used mk ii for a good price, or buy a new mk iii.  My friends tell me to just get the mk iii, I’ll have buyer’s remorse if I settle for a 4 year old camera.  Mostly shooting architecture, and some hiking/nature like stuff.  I’m having a hard time convincing myself that the mk iii is worth the extra $2k over the used mk ii.   What do you think?

    • ChrisGampat

      Your friend may know you much better than I do. But if you don’t need the latest and greatest cam, then get the Mk II. I’m not upgrading.

      Refurbished 5D mk iis are actually usually in excellent condition and put through more rigid testing than brand new items. Consider those too.

      -Chris Gampat
      Editor in Chief
      The Phoblographer

  • Todd

    Nice point of view thanks.
    Does the MK3 autofocus work in movies now when the subject is moving?
    I wish they would put an inbuilt flash on this camera. It would be a great option to be able to use one when you havent got one with you.

    • ChrisGampat

      I don’t think it does.

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  • Bizzoppz

    Your last picture is out of focus – noob.

  • FZ

    Shooting Architecture full time the 5D Mk II is my ideal Camera.  You wouldnt buy a 2nd hand camera from me as they are worked hard!  I needed a spare so was keen to see the arrival of the Mk III.   Such a disappointment – another Mark II workhorse for me, outstanding and clearly difficult to improve on!

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  • Jim G

    I was so in love with my 5d2 that my, 1ds2, 5d, 7d rarely get used. Was thinking that this would be a great time to pick up another 5d2 with the intro of the 5d3, but bought the 5d3 just to satisfy my curiosity. OMG the iso performance and speed and accuracy of the af system is so beyond all other canons it makes my other cameras seem broken.  Lenses I have given up on work perfectly! 5d 2 was a great evolution of the 5d. The 5d3 is in another league, should be called 5d mark 5.  Bring you favorite lens to a store and put it on a 5d3. In 3 frames you’ll be sold! Canon underpriced the 5d3! 

  • rno

    Really nice post, I’m looking for a new camera and I wonder if should get a 60D brand new or look for a second hand 5D MKII, I will mainly be shooting friends and family and my main concern is low light photo with no flash and since i’ve read your post I’m thinking more and more about getting a 5D MKII , what do you reckon? 

    • ChrisGampat

      I think you hit the nail on the head. But you also need fast lenses.

      -Chris Gampat
      Editor in Chief
      The Phoblographer

  • Brian

    Thank you for this article.  I just purchased the 5D MKII after some serious consideration of the MKIII and this article confirms my same thoughts ”
    Do you really want to become a better photographer? It’s not about your camera. At the end of the day: no one will remember the gear you used or how you shot an image. They’ll only remember the image.”

    Props!

  • http://apollofotografie.com/ Brian

    Thank you for this article.  I just purchased the 5D MKII after some serious consideration of the MKIII and this article confirms my same thoughts ”
    Do you really want to become a better photographer? It’s not about your camera. At the end of the day: no one will remember the gear you used or how you shot an image. They’ll only remember the image.”Props!

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