Which One? Canon 5D Mk II or Canon 7D for Wedding Photography

by Chris Gampat on 10/25/2010

The Ring Shot

We believe that the Canon 7Dand Canon 5D Mk IIcomplement each other very well, but questions have arisen as to which one is better to get all the shots on your wedding photography checklist. Go onto the most popular photography forums and you’ll see this question appear at least three times a month in one way or another. We’re aware that in some ways this is like comparing apples to oranges, but it is a subject that is well worth exploring. David Ziser concluded that he’d rather go for the 7D; but is that right for you? We’ve noticed readers typing this into the search bar of the site—so since the 1D Mk IV is out of range for many of you, here’s your answer.

Before we go on, we’ve got the complete Canon 7Dreview for you right here if you’re interested. Why no 5D Mk II? This blog was started well after I purchased mine. Also do note that this comparison is targeted towards still shooters vs video shooters. If I had to choose video, I’d choose the 5D Mk II for the manual sound control.

Oh and Judge Joe Brown says not to use a Rebel first and foremost ;) . The Nikonians and others will want to check out our recommended gear and all of you will want to check out our wedding affiliate Snapknot.com. If you’d like more comparisons, check out the 60D vs 7D vs T2i and 7D vs D300s for concerts postings.

As a further disclaimer, I use both the 7D and 5D Mk II.

Best Features For a Wedding

5D Mk II

- Full frame sensor (35mm equivalent)

- Better high ISO output

- Less complicated interface than the Canon 7D

- Center focusing point is extremely good

- Much better to use with ambient light because of the larger sensor

- No complicated mathematics involved with the reciprocal rule of shooting

- Quieter shutter

- If you want to use is as a video camera, you’ve essentially got the best of Canon’s lineup in your hands

7D

- APS-C sensor gives your lenses extra reach

- More detailed images

- Despite more complexity, it is much more versatile than the Canon 5D Mk IIand allows a slew of different settings like RAW+JPEG, which can be very useful at weddings.

- An autofocusing system that puts the Canon 5D Mk IIto shame

- Higher FPS shooting at 8fps

- Dedicated video buttons

- Wireless flash control which is immensely useful

- Small and medium raw files are much closer to a whole number and give you more pixels than the 5D Mk II’s

Ergonomics

The Shoes

Here’s where the preference war really starts to make us tread carefully. The Canon 5D Mk IIhas a body that feels most similar to the old 40D—which was a staple of many wedding photographers for years and years. I’ve picked one up recently and then got my 5D Mk II back from Will after having loaned it to him for a while. The differences feel very minor. For more experienced shooters, you’ll probably appreciate this little bit of information. For shooters moving over to Canon, this isn’t always such a great thing.

With that said though, the Canon 5D Mk IIdoesn’t feel as tough as the 7D. Further, every Nikon shooter I know states that if they were to go to Canon tomorrow, they’d pick up the 7D. Why? It feels like a Nikon. After spending a month using Nikon equipment and then going back to using my Canon gear, I can tell you that the differences in how the cameras feel ergonomically are different.

In my opinion, the Canon 7Dfeels more like a serious business camera that is meant to take abuse. The 5D Mk II feels a lot more elegant; and when shooting a wedding many photographers may appreciate having less buttons—especially where moments happen very quickly like when the pastor says, “You may now kiss the bride.”

That’s not to say that either one wouldn’t be great for wedding photographers. This is really a personal taste more than anything.

If you’re a street photography/photojournalistic shooter, you may want to go for the Canon 5D Mk IIbecause of the way it feels and because it is lighter even by a little bit (all the extra weight off counts.) If you’re also a Canon veteran, the 5D Mk II will feel like you’re right at home. If you love more of a studio look to your images, go with the 7D. This also applies to those considering switching over to Canon. Finally, those with smaller hands may actually appreciate the 7D lots more as I’ve seen how my assistants’ hands tend to conform to the body better.

Durability

Thankfully, I haven’t dropped my 5D Mk II or my 7D. The most punishment that they take comes from my camera bags and being bumped by people. Neither camera has suffered significantly from that.

There is another issue though tied into durability: and that is keeping the sensor clean. The 5D Mk II‘s sensor gets dirtier significantly more often than my 7D‘s does. I’ve had to take the 5D Mk II in for servicing many times because of this until going back to using my Arctic Butterfly (review here). My 7D has always only needed the Arctic Butterfly—there is never anything on the sensor that would cause a significant problem.

To diverge to videography for a second, try shooting video with something on your sensor—you’ll be screwed!

Now back to photography. The Canon 5D Mk IIhas a stainless steel internal chasis according to B&H but magnesium alloy according to DPReview. There is also a lot of rubber to keep dust and water out. The camera is marketed as weather and dust resistant.

The Canon 7Dhas a magnesium alloy chasis with environmental sealing. DPReview states that the camera has the same magnesium allow as the 5D Mk II. The Canon 7Doverall feels much better constructed than the 5D Mk II and it is heavier by a small fraction. If I was in a very rough environment, I’m positive that either one would be able to stand up to the elements but for the sensor cleaning problem alone I’d probably still with the 7D.

To be fair, if I kept the 24-105mm F4 L IS on the 5D Mk II, I wouldn’t need to change lenses often.

Photographers with clumsy assistants/interns may want to hand them the Canon 7Dbecause of the more durable and denser feel to it (luckily, mine are all careful.) In rain environments, either camera may be able to stand up to the punishment, but the 7D may be just a bit better.

Autofocus

Wedderazzo

As stated earlier, the 7D‘s autofocus really beats the Canon 5D Mk II‘s, so let’s talk about the latter’s first.

The 5D Mk II has 9 selectable autofocus points. When going into the custom menu though, there is an autofocus expansion option as well as a customized setting to allow the back joystick to select which particular autofocus point you’d like to use. This isn’t available straight out of the box, you need to unlock it! I talked more about this in my test at the Mermaid day parade. The Canon 5D Mk IIis also only able to select one focusing point at a time vs zones and other areas like the 7D‘s.

The Canon 7Dhas 19 autofocusing points and all are cross-type: meaning that one focusing point can be expanded to work with those around it. Additionally, there are different focusing modes: Single point/ Spot/ AF point Expansion/ Zone. For most of my work, I typically use Spot for the most precision and accuracy of focusing on someone’s eyes.

Because of the different focusing modes, the Canon 7Dis not only able to focus faster than the 5D Mk II, but it is also much smarter. If a child is running across the pews at church, switch to zone and follow the kid moving. Also ensure that you’re in AI Servo mode. It is also much better when focusing in the dark and you’ll be able to capture many more “keeper” shots than those being thrown away in Lightroom 3.

At this point, it should also be noted that these cameras perform best with lenses that are F/2.8 and wider. Most lenses in a wedding photographer’s bag, in fact, are this fast.

For photographers like me that want to nail the composition in camera and do less cropping afterwards, get the 7D. The grid lines in the viewfinder that can be unlocked will help immensely when combined with smart use of the autofocusing points. There are many photographers that always use the center and then recompose: the 5D Mk II is for them. Either option is valid as long as you get it to work.

But there is another factor to consider that I bring up often and that should be considered for all practicality when shooting a wedding. Putting a flash like the 580 EX II or the more affordable 430 EX II on the 5D Mk II can vastly improve its autofocusing abilities in any type of lighting because of the infrared beam of light working with the focusing system. In fact, you’ll almost never miss a shot. If you’re shooting a wedding, you’ll most likely have a flash or two of some sort—or at least you should!

Ease of Use

The Fun Family Photo

Once again,we’re getting into nippy territory here. Why? Put the Canon 5D Mk IIinto the hands of a seasoned veteran and they’ll tell you that the muscle memory is just so much more natural to them. Put the 7D into the hands of someone switching over from Nikon, and they’ll tell you that they’ll swear to it.

As stated earlier, the 5D Mk II has a much slimmer menu system due to less features and there are a lot less buttons. If you’re button-phobic, then maybe the 5D Mk II is for you. It is a lot more elegant in looks because of the simplicity as well.

In contrast, the Canon 7Dhas wireless flash control and a much more complicated functionality list. It was designed for this though and it was Canon’s first larger step into merging camcorders and DSLRs with the buttons, their improved autofocusing system and being able to control their flashes via an infrared signal.

It’s really up to the user in this case. Do you want to make use of a lot more features? If so, go with the 7D. Do you want better images as a natural light photographer? Then the 5D Mk II is king.

Meanwhile, my 5D Mk II‘s name is Dahlia, so she is my queen ;)

High ISOs

At the higher ISO settings, a photographer will get much cleaner images from the 5D Mk II. Despite the dual DIGIC 4 processors of the 7D, it still cannot keep up with the 5D Mk II‘s full frame sensor.

Consider this though: a Canon 5D Mk IIuser always shooting without the flash will more than likely crank the ISOs up very high. This isn’t always true though, if they have a pair of Pocket Wizards or a pair of 580 EX II flashes, then they’ll be manipulating the light around them and can keep the ISOs down.

With the 7D, all you need is one extra flash in most cases in the right place. Because of the wireless flash control, the ISOs can be kept down. Once again though, at higher ISOs like 6400, it cannot beat the 5D Mk II.

Conclusions

At the end of the wedding, each camera has their own unique strengths and weaknesses. Additionally, you’ll never be able to use any of this information to pitch yourself to a bride. Instead, you’ll need to demonstrate to her and her groom how well you can document the entire process and you’ll need to sell yourself very well. Ensure that you’ve got great lenses when using either camera and that your lighting is the best it can be.

Finally, exercise your creative freedom.

If you really had to go with one choice over another: if you’re coming over from another system, get the 7D. If you’ve already got an investment in Canon, get the 5D Mk II.

I’ve got both cameras and a number of lenses that I use along with flashes and light modifiers.

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  • TheresaZphotography

    The picture after the Auto Focus section is beautiful Chris, the composition is great.

    This was a very helpful addition to your advice about getting the 7D when we talked previously. I am sold, now, after the holidays, Serious Saving Time! = )

  • ian

    Thanks for a great article. I have a 5dmkII and a 50D and have been considering the move to a 7D so for me it is a highly informative piece.

    I have a question, one of the advantages of the 7D is listed as being “more detailed images”. What does this mean?

    Thanks – Ian

    • http://thephoblographer.wordpress.com Chris Gampat

      Thanks for the feedback Ian. As for your question, consider this: 18MP packed into the center of an imaging area of the lens vs 21MP spread out over the entire area of the lens. Because of the tighter packed pixels in a smaller area, the images will be more detailed.

  • Ronald Hanesworth

    I am going to up grade my camera system. I take out door pictures, vacation, ect. I am looking at Canon 7D with a Canon 24-70 lens. I have read many reviews on this lens that says it has front focus or back back focus problem and that Canon has done nothing to fix the problem. This is what I consider the perfect lens. The only problem I am afraid to spend over $1300.00 to buy any lens that will not be sharp (especially being a L lens). I would be really interested in an article on how to buy this lens and get one that’s sharp.

    • http://thephoblographer.wordpress.com Chris Gampat

      Well work on that Ron.

      Thanks for the suggestion.

  • Roni Blechner

    Please let me know if there is a chance of improving 5DmkII autofocus while shooting video. My stuff is at Youtube under ronib222 if you wish to watch. I do not use any rig and mostly shoot hand-held. I love the camera with its 24-105 kit lens but the lack of continuos autofocus is a shame (for my needs). Thanks a lot for your article.

    • http://thephoblographer.wordpress.com Chris Gampat

      It’s not terrible as it is if you just keep adjusting the focusing point.

      Also, those cameras are meant to be manually focused beforehand for the cinematic quality in the editing process.

  • missemanuel

    Best line by far……

    “With that said though, the Canon 5D Mk IIdoesn’t feel as tough as the 7D. Further, every Nikon shooter I know states that if they were to go to Canon tomorrow, they’d pick up the 7D. Why? It feels like a Nikon. ”

    So why the hell does everyone I meet shoot cannon and not nikon? Nikon is just better built, no comparison……..or maybe you could compare the two, iv just brought a D300s……

    • http://thephoblographer.wordpress.com Chris Gampat

      Because we Canon shooters are clearly the superior race ;) hahaha.

      It’s all subjective, but Canon has better lenses in my opinion and much better video options. Additionally, for my work I need lots of megapixels for liberal cropping if needed.

      Amazingly, some co-workers of my admire Canon build quality more because they say that the Red part on the grip comes off after a while.

  • georg

    regarding ruggedness. my 5dmkII has fallen from 2 feet two times onto wooden floor, and everything is fine, i didn’t even have to recalibrate the autofocus
    cheers
    georg

    • http://thephoblographer.wordpress.com Chris Gampat

      Hi Georg,

      You must not like it very much if that’s happened twice ;)

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  • Naji Abi Nader

    Nice article.
    Both bodies are great, but IMO, for weddings, the 5d mkii kicks the 7d’s a$$ !!
    Weddings = low light = high iso performance( i dont like to use a flash, photos are much better with available light)
    Most of wedding photographers use and prefer the 5D mkii over the 7D !
    I am not saying it is not good, it excells in sports photography!

    • Chris Gampat

      Mostly available light? Are you serious? With a flash you harness the light and make it yours.

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  • pragalathan

    sir i’m going to join photography class in few days and after that i’m planning to do cinematography.so need to buy a dslr which is good in both photos and videos.i would be using it for taking short movies and for photo shoots also.pls help me out.thanks a lot

    • Chris Gampat

      Canon 5D Mk II all the way. I’m saying that because of the full frame sensor even though the 7D has 60p at 720p HD.

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  • http://Wanabrar.com Rei

    Thank you sir for this awesome article. Getting me a 5D MK ll soon. But i would like to ask which lens should i get for zooming and potrait (buying 2 lens). I love taking landscape shoots, street photography and potrait. Price does not matter here. Please recommend me some good lens. Either it is sigma lens and ect. Thank you.

  • C

    Hi there,

    I’m very much a beginner, I’m moving onto a DSLR from a Canon S5 IS, and going into photography school towards the summer. Eventually hoping to go into wedding photography, engagements, people, but also other photography not including people.

    I’m agonizing over whether to get the 5DII or the 7D. I see advantages to both, and I’m just so lost. Price is not an issue, I just want to be sure that I am purchasing the best first camera I can. (eventually I’ll need a second body, so the other will come later).

    Any advice? I noticed you mentioned smaller hands may appreciate the 7D more. I have very tiny hands, so this appeals to me, but the fact that the 7D has more buttons, kind of scares me a little. But the better autofocus appeals as well. I could keep going.
    Like I said, so many advantages to either camera, it’s really hard to choose which would be best for me!!

    • Chris Gampat

      If you want to start out, I’d go for the 7D with a 580 EX II flash unit. You shouldn’t be afraid of all those buttons, they will come with muscle memory eventually.

      You may also want to check this out http://www.thephoblographer.com/2011/02/17/the-phoblographers-guide-to-the-right-canon-lens-for-you/

      The reason why I’m saying the 7D is specifically because of the wireless flash control ability. But the 5D Mk II’s sensor will take full advantage of the faster lenses shallow depth of field.

      If money isn’t an issue, then why not both? To be honest, I don’t see why any wedding photographer would ever need anything more than these two cameras.

      Either way, if you want to only buy one, go for the 7D. And please use our links and banners when you make your purchases.

  • Bakhtinuri

    Hi sir.

    I have canon 550D with 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM lens and now I want move further in photography sphere but I don’t know which of this 2 photo-cameras to buy. If I buy canon 5d MK II is 17-55mm f/2.8 completable with this camera ?

    Thanks in advance.

    • Chris Gampat

      No. the 17-55mm F/2.8 is an EF-s lens. It will work with the 7D, since EF-s lenses are designed for APS-C sensors. If you mount it on the 5D Mk II, it will either smash the mirror or break the lens.

  • Guest

    Dude the 5D2 shoots RAW+Jpeg as well and sRAW are 10 and 5 MP … these are whole numbers. And remote flash control on the 7D relies on line of sight, which is not happening often especialy not on weddings except for posed shots. After seeing these basic mistakes I didn’t bother reading further.

    • Anonymous

      The 7D has a direct raw+jpeg button while the Mk II doesn’t and needs menu access.

      The 5D mk IIs sRaw and mRaw aren’t whole numbers.

      Line of sight totally happens. You know how I know? I’ve shot weddings. Point the infrared sensor toward the camera and shoot just like one would with a TTL cord.

      I’d love to see some work from you rather than hiding behind a fake email address.

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      Editor in Chief
      The Phoblographer

  • Inna

    Hi! I was making my research today on what camera I should get for wedding photography. Originally i was going to wait till December and buy Canon EOS 6D ( What do you think about it?), but after reading some reviews I found out that it’s not the greatest camera. So I ended up looking into two cameras you described in your article. I still hasn’t decided which one to buy… I will probably go to best buy and hold both of them in my hands! ( for a girl i have normal size hands but long nails and most times lol) So it’s probably going to be a turning point for me! :D

    • ChrisGampat

      6D might be the best for you actually.

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  • Nick

    Would the 5d3 be these two combined ?
    I use a 7d and love it, but am considering getting a 5d2 specifically for weddings. Currently, at my local stores, the 5d3 costs more than the 7d and 5d2 combined :(

    • ChrisGampat

      It pretty much is

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